Wednesday, January 25, 2006

Don't be evil!

We don't want Google to censor search engine results. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.

805 Comments:

Anonymous Alexander said...

I don't want Google to censor its search engine results.

Alexander, Chur (Switzerland)

5:05 PM  
Anonymous Matthew said...

I don't want Google to censor search engine results. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.

Matthew (Germany)

6:16 PM  
Anonymous Caroline said...

I agree: There should be no censorship on search engines.

Cheers, Caro

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Sam K. said...

Google, "do no evil" or your users will be very disappointed. Remember that there are other search engines around.

Sam K.

Munich, Germany

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No censorship!!!

Kim

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Peter Kremer said...

Hey Google, that is an interesting feature! When do you expect to roll it out on a global scale? Could be a new business model: Just ask the governments around the globe, which information they don't want their people to see and make even more $$$ by eliminating the respective information from your search results.

I'm extremely disappointed.

Peter K.

Berlin

6:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's face it... Don't Be Evil is now a lie.
Google are just another corporation.
They have abandoned their once trumpted morals.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Natasha S. said...

Censoring search results is the first step to becoming evil. Hopefully, many users will contribute a short comment to this blog. All the best!
Natasha

6:57 PM  
Anonymous Martin said...

Censorship is evil. Google should be not.

Besides: This blog needs a lot more information about the topic, and more publicity.

6:58 PM  
Anonymous Ken said...

IMHO, censoring the Chinese, is at least 80% evil. You better stop that.

Ken

7:06 PM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

Martin,

thanks for your statement. The idea is to keep the blog as simple as even possible. Like Google once was :-)

There will be just one post and hopefully many, many, many comments. Tonight, I will do a little extra marketing for the blog. In a week or so, I will send the Open Letter to Google. I am quite sure that it will change nothing at all, but at leat, we set a sign.

Any input and/or support to promote the blog is highly appreciated. Thanks again!

Alexander

7:13 PM  
Anonymous Paul said...

@ken: 80%? Just 80%?

OK, Google might have a conflict with the Chinese gov. But giving in opens plenty of room for discussions with other countries, who don't like/tolerate information freedom. I fear that this was just the beginning...

Paul

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Peer L. said...

It's all about money. Today, we tolerate a little bit of censorship in China, tomorrow a bit more in Iran and so on. The new Google claim should be: "Do not too much evil."

Peer L. from FFM
110% Google user

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Helmuth said...

Artist, formerly known as Prince ->
Search engine, formerly famous for doing no evil

Found the link in the Heise forum. You definitely need more publicity! Good luck!

7:36 PM  
Anonymous Martin K.-K. said...

No censorship!

Martin K.-K., Cologne

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google is cheating on their Chinese customers. Who will be next? I won`t use Google as a search engine any longer.

7:43 PM  
Anonymous Tanja R. said...

Alexander:

auch wenn es, wie Du sagst, vielleicht nichts bringt, so schadet es zumindest nicht. Das unterscheidet diese Aktion von der, die sich Google heute geleistet hat. Es ist wirklich schade, dass Google sich damit von seinen Prinzipien verabschiedet.

Tanja, Zürich

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want Google to xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx. Not in xxxxx and nowhere else in the xxxxx.

Note: This comment has automatically been modified by Blogger, a Google company.

Take care, Richard

8:20 PM  
Anonymous Tom Gehring said...

Google war einmal meine favorisierte Suchmaschine. Das ist nun Geschichte. Ich frage mich allerdings, warum Google sich daheim in den USA gegen das Justizministerium mit Händen und Füssen gegen die Herausgabe von Daten wehrt, um sich genau eine Woche später in China ganz offenbar einen Dreck um die Interessen der User zu scheren. Ist denn alles, was Google letzte Woche mit dem US-Justizministerium veranstaltet hat, nur ein billiger PR-Gag gewesen? Anzunehmen ist das fast!

Tom G., Hamburg

8:33 PM  
Anonymous Julian said...

I do not consent with any form of censorship. In no part of the world. Stop filtering keywords!

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Mela said...

No censorship. Never. Nowhere.

8:46 PM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Also, zunächst einmal: Gaaaaaaaaanz so einfach kann man es sich m.E. nicht machen. Immerhin hat Google, wenn die Geschichte stimmt, eigentlich keine Wahl gehabt: Hätte Google nicht gehandelt, hätte die chinesische Regierung die Zensur vorgenommen. M.a.W. wäre der Schaden so oder so eingetreten.

Was mich an der ganzen Geschichte eigentlich stört ist die Tatsache, dass Google mit der Reaktoin für zukünftige Fälle einen Bezugsfall geschaffen hat. Andere Staaten werden nun auch von Google verlangen, bestimmte unerwünschte Inhalte "herauszufiltern". Man denke nur an die ganze arabische Region, in der Meinungs- und Informationsfreiheit nicht geradde weit vebreitet sind. Die richtige Reaktion wäre in meinen Augen gewesen, sich nicht erpressen zu lassen. so aber schadet Google nicht nur den Usern in China, denen eine nicht existente Scheinvollständigkeit der Suche vorgemacht wird, sondern auch sich selbst, weil man solche "Deals" aus Prinzip schon nicht machen darf.

Im Ergebnis trägt Google damit dazu bei, dass China seine Leute weiterhin für dumm verkaufen kann. Ich finde, dass man sich als berühmte und einflussreiche Firma gerade im Umfeld von Informationsmanagement nicht vor den politischen Karren von Staaten spannen lassen darf.

Es grüßt euch

Patrick, Besserwisser aus Augsburg :-)

8:52 PM  
Anonymous André Jaeger said...

Google to build the great chinese firewall. "DON'T BE EVIL"? When it comes to money, all is relative!

André Jaeger, Zurich

9:10 PM  
Anonymous Cole said...

@Google: stop this bullshit!

9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Censorship is evel.
@Google: Don't be evil!

Nick
http://blog.schoko.org

9:18 PM  
Anonymous Robert P. said...

I read that after today’s news, many sites are discontinuing AdSense in protest. Excellent idea imho. See this one, for example: http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2225

Alex: Proves a good sense of humour to use a Google Blog for this one

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Sven Reinhardt said...

Alexander

nice try, but how about MSN, Yahoo and the other usual suspects? Do you really think they are any better? They are not! Both have been involved in similar affairs before. Look it up:

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=msn+yahoo+china&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

If you don't like Google, feel free to use any other search engine. The results are the same.

Apart from that, censorship really *is* evil ;-)

9:54 PM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

Sven and all others,

thanks a lot for contributing clear statements to this blog. Please let me explain something in order to avoid a possible misunderstanding:

I personally like, respect and use Google. I am aware of the fact that MSN and Yahoo had similar issues just recently. While I don't think that MSN and Yahoo are any better, I still think that Google is.

Intention of the open letter is not to express my personal anger about Google (I am not angry). Intention of this letter is to let Google know that some of their users don't like censorship and that it might have consequences to not listen closely to their users opinion about censorship. That's all.

Thanks again to all of you!

Alexander

10:19 PM  
Anonymous J. Vierbuchen said...

Don't assist dictatorships!

10:35 PM  
Blogger Privatisierung said...

I demand: Barrier free internet. For handicapped. For information.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Letzter Google-User said...

Die China-Sache hat hohe Wogen geschlagen. "Google+China" ergibt bei...
- Google Blog Search: Mehr als 95'000 Treffer
- Google News Search (com.): Mehr als 2.800 Treffer
- Google News Search (de): Mehr als 300 Treffer
Es finden sich allerdings nur wenige Kommentare, die von Google als halbwegs potitiv ausgelegt werden könnten. Woran das wohl liegt?

H.-P. Conrad

11:21 PM  
Anonymous Werner Lind said...

Ich bin enttäuscht von Google. Von allen hatte ich so etwas erwartet, aber nicht von Google.
Werner Lind

11:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google stand einmal für den zivilisierten Umgang mit Informationen. Dass Google jetzt mit der chinesischen Regierung zur Unterdrückung der chinesischen Bevölkerung zusammenwirkt, ist ein Hohn.
Volker
PS: Es geht hier erstaunlich sittsam zu. Schaut mal in ein paar Foren, wie heiss und kontrovers das Thema dort diskutiert wird.

11:51 PM  
Blogger MiGrant said...

So, can anyone recommend a good (i.e. non-evil) search engine?

12:48 AM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

Michael,

to me, Google was and still is the best web search engine, while others may consider MSN or Yahoo to be the #1 (and they may be right, I don't want to judge this), but let's face it: All three of them are censoring their search results in China and maybe elsewhere, too.
Two other very good search engines are AskJeeves and Altavista. There are many comparison charts available, maybe you find a good overview here: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10572_7-6219242-2.html.

Cheers, Alexander

1:31 AM  
Anonymous steve said...

Although they definitely had to choose between the lesser of two evils:
#1 They didn't stick to their word ("don't...", NO, I won't quote that again)
#2 They are cheating on the guys in China using their search engine

1:46 AM  
Anonymous jmi said...

No doubt other IT and internet corporations are no better regarding censorship in China and elsewhere. But that should never be an excuse to democratically-minded people for accepting corporate collaboration with dictatorships and regimes suppressing their own people like these in Peking or Teheran. Neither for tolerating anti-freedom policies by governments in the western hemisphere. We've got the power to protest.

1:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Curious moral relativism: Discussing with the US DoJ while kissing up to China being one of the most repressive governments. Disgusting, totally disgusting!
Mike C.

1:58 AM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

Für die deutschsprachigen Leser: Als ich Michael gerade über Alternativen zu Google schrieb, habe ich mit AskJeeves gespielt, ein paar Informationen hierzu eingeholt und festgestellt: AskJeeves Deutschland wurde heute als Beta freigegeben (http://de.ask.com). Die Suche kann auf deutsche Seiten beschränkt werden. Hmmmm, und wann kommt die schweizer Ausgabe?

2:08 AM  
Anonymous J.J. said...

Remember "Fahrenheit 451" and "1984"? Here we go, thanks to Google & Co. Google has become another money grubbing corporation. They don't care about you, nor your rights any more.
J.J.Simmons

2:14 AM  
Anonymous Karl Grubmueller said...

Für mich war's das. Ich such mir auch 'ne neue Suchmaschine. Auf Quaero kann man ja wohl nicht warten, dann vielleicht AskJeeves? Es wird Zeit für einen Google-Nachfolger.
Gruesse aus SFO, Karl G.

2:32 AM  
Anonymous A. Kroll said...

Meine Meinung: Sicher eine schwierige Entscheidung für Google, mir kann aber niemand ernsthaft sagen, dass Google nicht einmal mehr die Kohle hat, ein paar ordentliche Proxies rund um China aufzustellen und dafür zu sorgen, dass man Google.com nicht auch unzensiert in China empfangen kann. Wäre doch gelacht, wenn Google das nicht hinkriegen würde, was jede popelige IT-Schrauberbude locker schaffen könnte. Ich glaube, dass Google hier aus ganz anderen Gründen mit China einen Kuhhandel eingegangen ist. Und weil Google ja offensichtlich schon längerr an dem Thema rumdoktort und ja die Typen von Google alles andere als blöd sind, haben die m.E. vorhergesehen, dass es mächtig Ärger geben wird unter den Google-Usern weltweit. Ergo muss richtig viel Geld im Spiel sein, wenn Google das Risiko eingeht, ihren guten Ruf (haben sie ja wirklich) aufs Spiel zu setzen.
Klare Sache aber: Da hat sich Google mal eine richtige Schweinerei geleistet und sich die goldene Zitrone verdient. Vermutlich wird aber morgen ein neuer Release von Google Earth herausgegeben werden und die ganze Welt (außer China vielleicht) ist wieder glücklich und lobt Google in den Himmel und Google macht schnell eine Kapitalerhöhung und nimmt ein poaar Milliarden ein und kann sich dann vielleucht oder besser hoffentlich ein paar Proxies für China leisten.
Hoffentlich war das jetzt kein zu langer Beitrag, aber jetzt gehts mir schon wieder etwas besser. Ein Werbemensch aus Hamburg würde jetzt wieder sagen "Blogs sind Klowände", aber egal. In diesem Fall haben wir ja auch wirklich eine NAchricht für die Toilette. Schluss jetzt.
Axel Kroll, The Evil

2:49 AM  
Anonymous Oops said...

Bye bye Google. Lessons learned?
W.F.
PS: This is a Google blog. Is it safe or will Google forward the posts to the Cninese or Iraqi government to comply with these systems?

2:54 AM  
Anonymous Tom Gehring said...

Axel,
Dein Argument "mir kann aber niemand ernsthaft sagen, dass Google nicht einmal mehr die Kohle hat, ein paar ordentliche Proxies rund um China aufzustellen und dafür zu sorgen, dass man Google.com nicht auch unzensiert in China empfangen kann" ist ein verdammt guter Punkt!!!!!
Ach ja, ich war vorhin schon einmal hier und habe meinen Senf abgegeben. Zieht bitte einen Kommentar wg. doppelter Teilnahme meinerseits ab, bevor ihr Google schreibt. Nicht, dass wir die Statistik verfälschen...
Tom G., Hamburg

3:05 AM  
Anonymous Wieland said...

Moin, wird mehr und mehr deutsch oder schweizerisch hier, was angesichts der Uhrzeit überrascht (ihr leidet wohl alle an NAchtdienst oder Projektabgabe oder seniler Bettflucht). A propos Überrachung: Fast alle sind sich einig und niemand trollt, auch nicht in den meisten anderen Forem/Blogs,in denen diese leidige Geschichte diskutiert wird. Welch seltenes Ereignis. Soll ich mal schnell trollen und "Windows gegen Linux" sagen ;-)
Wieland (mag keine Zensur)

3:20 AM  
Anonymous R.T. said...

I don't want to go too much into detail, but rumours have it Google does not only *filter* certain results from being accessed from Chinese citizens, but rather support a *complete misinformation* of the Chinese. Try "falun gong" on Google.cn vs. Google.com and you'll get completely different results. That's not 80% evil, but 100%!
Robert T.

3:36 AM  
Anonymous Jack said...

Principles matter.
Jack

3:38 AM  
Anonymous Tom Gehring said...

@Wieland
-> "Projektabgabe". Eigentlich gestern :-(
Tom G., Hamburg

3:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ouch, Google should be strong enough, not to do so...

3:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Google founders!

Look in the mirror. YOU, of all people, should know better than to cooperate with a fascist regime. Shame on you.

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

... stopping all Google services from in and about china would be smarter.

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Paolo said...

Not a single word on the "Official Google Blog"
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/
Instead, they are excited to tell us about StopBadware.org.

3:50 AM  
Anonymous Google Web said...

Your search - democracy - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

* Make sure all words are spelled correctly: Did you mean "dictatorship"
* Try different keywords: "regime", "totalitarianism", "communism"
* Try more general keywords: "china"
* Try no keywords at all.
* Try another search engine.

4:10 AM  
Anonymous MTI said...

Robert mentioned an interesting example some entries earlier. Try it, it is really true, Google is presenting totally different results on both sites when searching for the keywords - falun gong -. Unbelievable!
A question concerning filtering: I have heared that Google filtered also queries in Germany which is hard to believe. I found some articles in the web, but I am from Italy and my GErman is quite lousy. Could someone please tell me if Google really is filtering search results in Germany?
Saluti cordiali, Mario

4:23 AM  
Anonymous Carol S. said...

Google has some nice features, too: "stocks: goog"
The Google share opened at 451.85. Currently it is at 433.00. This is hopefully a trend.

4:39 AM  
Anonymous Carol S. said...

Google has some nice features, too: "stocks: goog"
The Google share opened at 451.85. Currently it is at 433.00. This is hopefully a trend.

4:39 AM  
Anonymous mti said...

CNN money mentions that google founder Sergey Brin defends Google's decision:
"One thing we do, and which we are implementing in China as well, is that if there's any kind of material blocked by local regulations we put a message to that effect at the bottom of the search engine. 'Local regulations prevent us from showing all the results.' And we're doing that in China also, and that makes us transparent."
Actually, it does not. Google should tell the truth which is, they are offering total different results here and there and this is something totally different.
Saluti cordiali, Mario

4:56 AM  
Anonymous Mr.Q. said...

Interesting post, lot's of comments. Understood most of them :-)
Mine is - Google is evil or at least about to become. You really should do better.
Mr.Q.

4:59 AM  
Anonymous Dick said...

Money makes the world go around.
Money makes you forget your principles.
Dick, Pasadena

5:04 AM  
Anonymous George D. White said...

Censoring their own results is like digging their own grave.

5:07 AM  
Anonymous Roger said...

"All in all you're just another brick in the wall"
A real bad day for the information freedom

5:21 AM  
Anonymous Jörg said...

Google sollte sich schämen. Zensur ist das letzte, was sich eine Suchmaschine leisten sollte.

6:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has the slogan "Don't be evil" always been a hoax or has it just become one lately in face of ever rising shareholder value?

8:06 AM  
Blogger kawazu said...

a search engine which is about to censor search results renders itself unusable - how can you be sure it returns anything _usable_ instead of just some garbage people allow you to see? I can't really rely on google anymore right now, and I probably will start using different search engines as google ceases being a reliable source of information.

8:50 AM  
Anonymous John F. Nebel said...

If Google censors in china, why should we trust them in our country?

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Jürgen Siebert said...

Fontblog is seconding your open letter to google.

10:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nerdcore is featuring your Letter in the Headline, which makes it even MORE important, because it is!

11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can i suggest a google bomb

search evil get google as a protest

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Nerdcore said...

Nerdcore is still featuring your Letter in the Headline, which makes it even MORE important, because it is! And now Nerdcore even has signed with its name... cool!

11:06 AM  
Anonymous Mike Schnoor said...

To censor "a billion" is wrong. This is Google's downfall... advertisements (controlled by chinese government) in their search results are more worthy than the freedom of speech. Nicely done.

11:11 AM  
Blogger Quakksalber said...

amen to that...can you believe they even censor the search results here in germany!? yeah, that's what your democracy looks like!!

11:17 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

I wrote my own open letter to Google here:

http://lart.stanford.edu/~shandrew/google-cn-propaganda.html

11:31 AM  
Blogger mtrax said...

Second that. What's next??! I'd say no Ozzi television shows on South African television (and they're not allowed to show cricket matches which we don't win)... tsk-tsk-tsk. Possible once Google rules TV.

11:57 AM  
Anonymous don said...

looks like google is 5% evil now.

12:07 PM  
Anonymous Christoph said...

Google as the new "Ministry Of Information"? No, thanks.

Although I doubt that they don't already censor elsewhere (everywhere?) around the world.

Can't be good. Information is and must be free. And google loses more and more of its appeal.

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you already know: Google "censors" information anyway. This is the first and only purpose of a search engine. It leaves out everything that it deems not interesting for the users. Let it be determined by an algorithm, let it be determined by the government, the infrastructure for "censoring" can be used by many entities. And this non-algorithmic censoring happens everywhere, according to the local laws. Even in the USA. So stop bitching about Google and better think in what hands you laid your souvereignity on what data you want to see. You gave it to some corporation, you praised an algorithm they use, you gave all your desires to a stupid robot. Now there you have it. Please understand that there was no reason to trust Google in the first place. At least some people wake up now.

Also: They are not evil. They just obey local laws. They became the main point of focus because in most minds Google is equal to the Internet. Google became the single point of failure. You remember the promise of the decentralized internet? It is still there somehow, but why to use it when Google, the big central octopus, works so good? It may not find everything and not exactly what you want, but it is fast and there is a constant stimulus for you. Bah!

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Google: You are not the World Government. Simple follow the local rules and laws - whether in USA or China - and you are fine.

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Lou Canova said...

Did you know: Google doesn't not only censor information - they earn their money with information, pushing paid keywords into the very first entrys of your search results. The whole thing ist not about Google beeing Evil - it's about that people still think they're not.

3:51 PM  
Blogger Long John Silver said...

thinking of non-evil searchengines we should not forget that the german-google-search-results are censored too, and google is saving all your searchrequest and -resultdata!
google is watching you to bad if its evil too!

4:50 PM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

I would like to thank you all for your comments and at the same time excuse my absence for the last 40 or so entries. I had to do some work and was out of the office. I am very happy that you all took your time to write a comment in this blog. Some of you even wrote a post in your blog and linked to this blog which was very helpful because this action was started only 24 hours ago and I did almost no promotion for it.

Some of you sent me emails during the time, Blogger was offline for maintenance. Thanks also for these requests. As you can see, you can post your comments again. The temporary unavailability was due to a SCHEDULED maintenance of Blogger.

I really appreciate all comments and I promise that I will not censor them :-) The biggest surprise to me is that I expected major technical discussions in the blog or discussions about the question whether or not Google is evil. Some of you told me in an email to me that it was no good idea to choose the headline "don't be evil" for the post. You may be right, but this was the first thing that came into my mind, when I read the news. Many comments of you show that your first impression was the same.

As I wrote in en earlier comment, I am a convinced Google user. Some of the last comments were stating that Google (and others) are filtering content ever since. The argument maybe was that nothing has changed due to Google's decision to filter a bit more in China. I doubt that. I know that Google's job (as well as MSN's or Yahoo's) is to filter and rank the search results. But in my opinion, ranking search results on one hand according to the potential relevance of the results (whatever that means) and censoring search results according to the political preferences of certain countries are two different issues.

Some of you mentioned that Google is not only censoring in China, but also in other countries. Germany was one example. This is true. I noticed that a few weeks ago, when I read about this issue in a blog. I think that Germany was requesting Google to remove certain hardcore porn entries (which were considered to be illegal under German criminal law) from the search results. I remember very well that some lawyers in the blog were questioning the legal basis for this "request". The reason, why I personally don't care about that too much is that I use Google.com and don't look up pornographic sites anyhow. But generally speaking, if the legal basis for such actions is questionable, there is no substantial difference between censoring in China or in Germany apart from the fact that I personally tend to accept most of the German legal provisions, whereas I consider Chinese or Iranian legal provisions (including their constitutions) to be highly undemocratic and therefore unacceptable. Legal compliance and moral correctness are sometimes two seperate issues.

So, where is the big deal about the China issue? Google is the most powerful gatekeeper of the internet. In this position, Google has a high level of responsibility towards its users. In consequence they have to behave accordingly. If they don't, they are no longer the search engine of my choice. If I got you right, at least the majority of you, you share this opinion. And I am very happy that you do. Jack did a great job, when he put that in two simple words: "Principles matter".

Again, thanks a lot for your contribution to this "Open Letter to Google".

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google says of itself, "Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful."
They claim "Google has steadfastly refused to make any change that does not offer a benefit to the users who come to the site." They state as a key point of company philosophy, "Democracy on the web works." And they further declare, "It is a core value for Google that there be no compromising of the integrity of our results."

Given the above, Google has no ethical choice but to apologize to the world and immediately retract their censorship agreement with China.

7:58 PM  
Anonymous Lars said...

Irgendwie ist doch der Chinesische Markt zu groß um darauf verzichten zu können. Welche global agierende Firma möchte schon auf mehr als eine Mrd. potenzielle Kunden verzichten. Keine. Warum also der Hype um die Google Selbstzensur in China. Die deutsche Regierung macht Geschäfte mit China. Möchte ich deshalb auswandern? Unsere so genannten Lifestylegeräte wie Handys, Mp3-Player, Digicams und Notebooks werden in China hergestellt. Egal welche Firma letztendlich mit ihrem Namen dahinter steht. Bei mir sind es etwa 80 % der Geräte. Da ich mir vorgenommen habe, nur noch mit Produkten von Firmen zu arbeiten die nicht “böse” sind, werdet ihr hier nichts mehr von mir lesen können.

8:20 PM  
Blogger p-sito said...

spread the message!

9:34 PM  
Anonymous Roland K. said...

Als MSN vergangene Woche in der DoJ-Geschichte unter Druck kam - wir erinnern uns dunkel, das war die Angelegenheit, bei der Google standhaft blieb -, hat der Chef von MSN Search am Folgetag ein Statement auf dem offiziellen Search-Blog von MSN veröffentlicht: http://blogs.msdn.com/msnsearch/archive/2006/01/20/515606.aspx. Man mag von dem Statement halten, was man will, aber es war zumindest eine Information.

Und was macht Google? Google tut so, als wäre nichts gewesen. 36 Stunden, nachdem die ersten Zeitungen und Blogs über Google's bedenklichen Gang nach China berichteten, finden wir auf dem offiziellen Google-Blog die heutige Nachricht, dass man jetzt auch NBA-Basketballspiele auf Google Video anschauen kann. Das ist *kein* Scherz: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/

9:37 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Liebe Googlemitarbeiter. Bitte zensiert nicht für die Chinesen oder irgend jemand anderen das Internet. Ihr seid doch mal mit "Don't be evil" angetreten.

9:51 PM  
Blogger TCHe said...

Signed.

Information is power.
And power belongs to the people!

11:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google, I'd like to quote Sen. Chris Smith, who invited you to a hearing on February 16th: “China’s policy of cutting off the free flow of information is prohibitive for the growth of democracy and the rule of law. Many Chinese have suffered imprisonment and torture in the service of truth – and now Google is collaborating with their persecutors.”
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/nj04_smith/printernetchina.html
Cheers, Bill

11:18 PM  
Anonymous shensche said...

censorship is the way of despotism. please do not fall into this evilness, Google.

11:29 PM  
Anonymous Clemens said...

Ich bin der zukünftige Produktmanager bei Google, denn ich habe eine brilliante Idee, wie Google sehr schnell noch viel, viel reicher und mächtiger werden kann: Das Geschäftsmodell beruht auf dem bewährten Programm AdWords. Potenzielle Kunden sind alle Regierungen. Die Umsätze werden dadurch erzielt, dass Regierungen bestimmte Wörter gegen eine monatliche oder jährliche Gebühr buchen können. Enthalten potenzielle Suchtreffer einer Anfrage diese Wörter, werden die Suchtreffer auf der jeweiligen Länder-Domain von Google für die Dauer des Vertrags ausgeblendet. Der Preis für die Wörter bestimmt sich nach der potenziellen Gefahr, die von dem jeweiligen Begriff auf die jeweilige Regierung ausgeht. Ferner ist die Anzahl der Bürger in dem jeweiligen Land mitbestimmend für den Preis. "INFORMATIONSFREIHEIT" z.B. würde an die chinesiche Regierung teurer verkauft werden können als z.B. an die Regierung der Vereinigten Staaten. Bei "IRAKKRIEG" hingegen wird es sich vermutlich umgekehrt verhalten. Beim Namen für das Projekt schwanke ich noch zwischen: "BooWords" und "WooWords". Vielleicht können wir hier abstimmen, welcher Brand Euch besser gefällt.

1:43 AM  
Blogger DesiLinguist said...

I agree:
http://greenideas.blogspot.com/2006/01/justifiable-kowtowing.html

3:16 AM  
Anonymous Nick said...

To me, Google’s censoring of search results is just absurd!

3:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't censor the web and don't be evil!

4:19 AM  
Anonymous Budweiser Lover said...

"Budweiser" is bad for the Chinese. Therefore Google is filtering it. Unbelievable, but true. Read the full CNET news article here: http://news.com.com/What+Google+censors+in+China/2100-1030_3-6031727.html

4:26 AM  
Anonymous John Miller said...

Doing business with China is just plain wrong. China represses free speech and oppresses her people. Google, please conform to your corporate policy: "Don't be evil." Withdraw from China now, and do not consider going back in until you can allow searches without restrictions. Thank you.

4:34 AM  
Anonymous Steve G. said...

I don't want Google to censor its search engine results. Thanks and good luck!!!

4:41 AM  
Anonymous Thomas Kant said...

@Clemens: My favorite is "BooWords" ;-)
@All: I hope that Google's share price will reflect that the decision to support the Chinese regime was wrong.
@Google: Censoring search engine hits is evil.

5:26 AM  
Anonymous Thomas Kant said...

Michelle Malkin and others created some very nice new logos for Google.cn
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004385.htm

5:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It creates a precedent that any totalitarian government can grab a hold of and start running. Can you think of 10 countries that would love to use this censorship model, I can

Cheers
Paul

5:36 AM  
Anonymous George D. said...

Google is not only censoring text. Try "tiananmen" on Google image search COM vs. CN and you'll be surprised about the different pictures:
COM http://images.google.com/images?q=tiananmen
CN http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen

5:46 AM  
Blogger Randy said...

Don't enable oppression Google!

5:49 AM  
Anonymous Joerg said...

anonymous,

just 10 countries? I can think of more countries that would immediately afopt the censorship model. Easily. It's good to see that there are so many people around, who agree that Google should not censor the Chinese web content. It's wrong to censor. Google, you *really* should not do that. Listen to your users!

Joerg, Zurich

6:05 AM  
Blogger Gary Isaacson said...

Chinese Googles With Red Sauce

I am among the millions of Americans who feel disappointment that Google would cooperate with Chinese censorship just to make money. Sorry to say, that’s doing evil.

Maybe the talented young people who run the place have not learned a simple lesson most older entrepreneurs have learned the hard way. Not all business is worth having.

China plays to win all the time and plays by their rules. If you play as they do, you will be doing evil. However, to foil their evil while making money is doing good.

America profited from Japanese hubris in the 1980’s. The Chinese are so full of themselves right now they are begging to be hustled. We sold the Japanese Pebble Beach, Hawaii and and lots of Manhattan at ruinous prices when Japan, Inc. was a juggernaut... then we bought it all back on the cheap when the Nikkei imploded.

China’s growth rate is unsustainable. In the not too distant future, many of their banks will collapse under the weight of politically directed bad loans, soaring real estate prices and stupid investments. Ironically, their coming economic recession will finally unleash real democratic reforms.

Google, if you want to sell China something, sell them stock not your principles. Chinese democrats will remember who cooperated with the dictatorship and who did not.

6:08 AM  
Anonymous ChrIstoph K. said...

Stop censoring now, Google!

11:35 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

It is not okay for Google to do this... and they need to know. Hope you get more people to sign here.

12:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The net treats censorship as a malfunction and re-routes around it."

(John Gilmore)

12:36 PM  
Anonymous Christian said...

Don't censor the web and don't be evil!
http://www.eff.org/

12:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't be evil!

12:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no censorship anywhere

12:42 PM  
Anonymous marcus said...

Very disappointing!

12:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be good and do NOT censor anything

12:44 PM  
Anonymous hans said...

Don't do this. I am very disappointed.

12:44 PM  
Anonymous Michael Barth said...

You're totally right, not in China and nowhere else in the world!

Signed.

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want Google to censor search engine results. Not in China and nowhere else in the world!

Tobias (Germany)

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Büssow said...

Dear Google Corp., please stop censoring! Don't do it in China nor in the rest of the world. Freedom also includes the Freedom of Speech and the Freedom to express someones' thoughs which of course includes excoriating government. If the Chinese government wants to censor they obviously have something to hide.

This also is a good example of how big companies can affect and danger Freedom. Or how they may be abused by totalitarian parties.

12:46 PM  
Anonymous pete (Tyrol) said...

Don't be evil. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google has two choices. To play worldwide or to play not. If Google wants to play in China, it has to accept chinese laws. Same thing is in the US. The US is "censoring" strong encryption schemes. The US is "censoring" programs and documents which describe how break cryptography (DMCA). So, if Google should stop working in the censored China, it should also stop working in the censored US.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO censoring!

12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let this case of sensorship be the latest! Let g$$gle know, that the free world will stop this practice right here, right now! Lets keep in mind, that a lot of people already died for their freedom of speech! G$$ogle, what is more important - money or human rights?

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Carsten said...

Boycott censored misinformation!

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Behemoth said...

This is definitely a Step in a very wrong direction...
At least !!! put up very detailed disclosures of what you are filtering...

You have the motto "dont be evil", stick to it! You get more and more away from your roots...

12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous florian said...

Yes, I agree that censorship for the sake of economic progress or any other purpose cannot be tolerated at all.

Please do note though that other online services like Yahoo and MSN actively support the chinese government in censoring online content and therefore deserve the same criticism as Google.
Also, the French company Thales sold radio-scrambling devices to China which make it impossible to listen to foreign radio stations from, for example, the USA.

I'm sure there's many other examples of companies which don't care about civil rights at all, be it in China or elsewhere.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This makes Google evil !
LEE

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

please don't support evil..

1:05 PM  
Blogger Instant-Holga said...

now, google sits in the same boat as microsoft.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO censoring! Not here or anywhere on the world!!

1:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Censoring is bullshit everywhere. Why does google do something like that? Stop it!

1:11 PM  
Blogger Hi Mum! I had an idea =] said...

There are enough alternatives to google;
http://www.yahoo.com/
http://de.altavista.com/
http://search.msn.de/
...

Wie wär's den Blog hier durch Google-Ads zu finanzieren?
Gruass us Chur

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Search Engines should act only as transporter/proxy of information, not as filter.

The crime (if any) is not in the engine, it is on the respective sites.

But laws & crimes in every country are different, so even a "lowest common filter" would be hard to define...

1:16 PM  
Anonymous Ralf said...

freedom of speech requires free information.

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Volker Meyer said...

I don't want Google to censor search engine results. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.

The declaration of human rights says:
Article 19
[...] Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice. [...]

This is international law since 1976!

1:19 PM  
Anonymous NTeike said...

I don't want Google to censor search engine results. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Oparaga said...

Freiheit für das Internet. Ich bin gegen Zensur. Das widerspricht den Regeln des WWW!

1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

googole don't fuck with us, unless you want us to start fuck with you.
not enough you're censoring in germany now also i china??
i might reconsider and gonna switch back to yahoo again.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous skate said...

It is always hard to be on the truth way, but who cares, let's go for it, open your heart and open the world

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Benno Inderbitzin said...

I'm against censorship!

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Jerry said...

Do not support political or religious censorship. The more people have access to information and news the more they will be able to get freedom.

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be against censorship. Support truth and freedom.

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No search should be censored. But google even censors german Pages, and in the USA, too.
Help us to build an decentral Searchnetwork: www.yacy.net / www.yacy-websuche.de
Or use other new Searchengines like www.metager2.de (but its only metasearch)

1:35 PM  
Anonymous Frank said...

I don't want Google to censor search engine results for political reasons. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To say it clearly: I don't like what Google did in China case, but perhaps you may think about this:

Any information we get IS censored. Just open any magazine and wonder about the information they left out!

Some censorship on Goolge has already occured for quite some time and everyone was quite happy about it - like the removal of SPAM and pornography.
No, I don't like what Google did, but I can not come up with a better alternative (as all the search engines are bowing to Chines government as well). So, can you?

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Andre said...

don't do it, google!

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Sebastian M. said...

No Censorship in china!

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as the market leader you should be able to resist censorship in china. please respect the human rights.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Martin H. said...

I won't continue using Google if Google continues to censor search results. Who can be sure that results outside of China are uncensored and accurate? Yahoo oder MSN are good enough.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Leonie said...

Google is the most used search machine... Evil is to abuse power

2:26 PM  
Blogger Whistler80 said...

I'm against censorship!

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Stop censorship! - Datenreise.de said...

Censorship is no solution.
Help stop censorship before the Internet becomes a plain white page.

Google, don't be evil - Stop censoring now, please don't cooperate with China's government.

http://www.datenreise.de

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Linux.Liberatio.Front said...

I think that censoring is a crime against humanity so please STOP IT

2:51 PM  
Blogger Google's L is Green said...

In case you ever wondered why the "L" in Google's logo is green.

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't be evil!

2:53 PM  
Anonymous Tim Graf said...

And again a little spark of hope died that someone somewhere somewhen will not do anything for money.

3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No censorship!!!

3:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Censorship is evil.

4:07 PM  
Anonymous Alice said...

I doubt if comments to Google make any difference at all. I don't like what Google is doing, so I am changing my homepage from Google and will be using a different search engine in the future. I hope to find one that doesn't censor its searches. In any case, I'll do my best not to aid Google making money at the expense of an individual's rights. The cost is too high.

4:22 PM  
Anonymous Torf said...

censorship is evil!

4:24 PM  
Anonymous sie said...

why? no. don't.

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't be evil!

4:36 PM  
Anonymous J.W. said...

Isn't it evil to support evil?
Isn't it evil to accept evil practices?

Look at chinese jurisdiction, how law is spoken and enacted in China, Google.
Is that good or evil, in your own terms?
Will you enact worldwide what the current Chinese goverment wants for China?

It's your decision. Think about it, and be certain and frank about what you do, and _why_ you do it.

4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Censorship is evil. Don't assist dictatorship.

4:37 PM  
Blogger J-Red said...

Google,
No thanks for aiding China's crushing of dissent. This decision completely legitimizes the communist position of blindfolding the masses to repress any form of political discontent.

5:03 PM  
Blogger Megan said...

If a search engine is censored, it is no longer a search engine.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google,
please be honest at least and change your motto to:
"Don't be evil ... unless you can make $$$ with it"

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

censoring IS a crime!!

5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don`t be evil!

Thomas Z.

Hannover, Germany

5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

freedom !

5:33 PM  
Anonymous Jan said...

Don't be evil!
Ensure free access to ALL information ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE!

5:33 PM  
Anonymous Peter Schlegel said...

I don't want Google to censor search engine results. Not in China and nowhere else in the world.
Google, STOP this BULLSHIT! I'ts absolutely inacceptabele!

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Wolfgang Gibisch said...

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING OR HAVE DIED FOR BRINGING INFORMATION TO CHINESE PEOPLE?

BY CENSORING SEARCH RESULTS YOU MAKE THEIR SUFFERING AND DEATHS U-S-E-L-E-S-S !


... AND YOU KNOW THAT!


- Wolfgang Gibisch (gibisch /at/ gmail /dot/ com)
- Ulm, Germany

5:50 PM  
Anonymous ralph said...

No censorship! Nowhere.

5:54 PM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

Wow! 168 comments to one post in a simple blog that is just two days old. I am more than happy with the development of this blog. Thank you all so much for contributing to it by giving your statements to Google's censorship policy in China (and elsewhere).

I have been asked what has been done to promote this blog. My answer is: Almost nothing. I posted a few comments on other peoples' blogs and wrote some emails to others asking them to support this effort and/or report about this blog in the news. That's basically it.

Some of you, who posted earlier and left a web address, may have noticed that I tried to thank you for the support by posting a little note on your blog. I hope you understand that I don't have the time to do so any longer. The posts are just too much for me to answer. Nevertheless, I would like to thank you all very much for supporting the "Open Letter to Google." It's good to know that there are good people around who really care and show that this is an important issue.

Let's consider this to be a joint effort of the blogosphere to tell Google that we don't like censorship and that we would appreciate it Google would think it all over again. I hope that this was just the beginning. What do you think? When will we have 10'000 comments (or more) here in this little blog?

Thanks to all of you! Thanks fo the blogosphere!

Regards, Alexander

6:01 PM  
Blogger Open Letter to Google said...

A must see!

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=open+letter+google+china&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&q=open+letter+google+china&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Larry, dear Segej,
I *want* to like you, but you make it hard for me... You must not abuse your power!
Be good,
Ben

6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really don't need the additional money, do you? I once thought you could do better :-(

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Don't be evil." Communism is evil (see, e.g., the USSR; much of S.E. Asia, including CHINA). Remember tiannamen sqare? Apparently not. The Chinese gov. slaughtered pro-democracy protestors less than 20 yrs ago, and has never apologized. Moreover, it denies anything bad happened. Ordinary chinese people have no idea of the magnitude of the atrocity. The party line is that only bad people died.
Google, you are evil for being complicit in that lie.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous Disappointed Googler said...

Dont be evil was (and is) a great concept to base a business on - and Google had shown that you can "be good" and still be incredibly successful. It's galling that Google has taken a step that so clearly and blatently goes against their fundamental concept.

Part of google's code of conduct reads "our most important asset by far is our reputation as a company that warrants our users' faith and trust." I think you just lost your most important asset, guys...

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ich denke das ist der falsche weg sich einen neuen Markt zu erschliessen.

Marius W
Germany

7:44 PM  
Blogger B. S. H. said...

I agree with the content of the post.
Don't be evil!

7:54 PM  
Anonymous ÄO said...

Now You join the pecunia-non-olet-club; MSN and Yahoo are already in, right? Have you recently visited HRW.org, or AI, oder Freedom house? Check there on China; it is even worse, then most people think...

You became too big anyways, like Microsoft: it is better to use something else.

8:59 PM  
Anonymous neuz said...

google really disappoints me at the moment

9:47 PM  
Anonymous C_A said...

There should be no censorship on search engines!

10:02 PM  
Anonymous joachim said...

censorship is against human rights!
google needs to change their politics!

10:08 PM  
Anonymous Arndt said...

Shame on you Google.

10:14 PM  
Anonymous Iain Rowan said...

Google, you said you had to think about your "do nothing evil" principle and you decided that this didn't go against that.

You're wrong.

11:05 PM  
Blogger Philipp said...

Google, be truthful to your mission. In particular, do not give in to country-specific laws that go against basic human rights.

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

free speak is not a crime, censoring is!

11:50 PM  
Anonymous Moof said...

Google, your Chinese users will probably agree with me when I say that a crappy Google.com is a thousand times better than a censored Google.cn

STEP BACK, GOOGLE, WHILE YOU CAN!

12:09 AM  
Blogger Robert Merrill said...

Google, please play fair. We want you to win, but don't hurt yourself playing too hard!

12:19 AM  
Blogger andy said...

China should be free! Google, that's the wrong way. Believe me, §§§§§ is not all, freedom is more.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google - don't be evil - everywhere!!!

12:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No border, no limit for all information around the world. I wish you luck with your "OPEN MAIL".

12:47 AM  
Blogger Lys said...

Self-censoring in order to enter the Chinese marked is - in my opinion - the wrong approach. However I agree that it is difficult for large companies not to be involved in china, as it is for companies to exist in china if they spread talk about "liberty". Considering google's usually very fair approaches they should either only provide an uncensored in-china search or stop their engine entirely for china (as uncensored search isn't a realistic choice).

12:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wenn Geld im Spiel ist, verlieren leider alle "WERTE" ihre Gültigkeit.
Sorry Google, das ist unter alle Sau :-(

12:50 AM  
Anonymous viajero loco said...

one day there will be other search engines without censorship!

12:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats the wrong way, google! I'll try to use some other search engines in the future, when ever it is possible, if they do not change theis policy.

1:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shity censorship, ... Free infos for the chines people... why not ? .... Google just wants more money ........;-)

1:04 AM  
Blogger anonymous said...

I am not impressed by the way you've handled China.

1:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A question to Google:
Do you know what your new friend that you are tongue kissing - the Chinese government - does when a whole village starts dying of cancer, because their water is being polluted by a nearby factory?

Answer:
They send the Grand Master of Censorship and Persecution – Comrade Xu Guangchun himself - to “take care of the situation”, while the factory continues to spread death to 150 million people living along the river bank!!

The whole story is here:
http://www.taz.de/pt/2006/01/17/a0135.1/text

1:56 AM  
Blogger Jon Swift said...

"Let a thousand flowers bloom." I think George Washington said that.

2:30 AM  
Anonymous Till Lütkemeyer said...

"Censorship is the younger of two sisters. The older one is called Inquisition." - Nestroy

5:24 AM  

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